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Show your support by making a donation here: Supporters page >>>> TH2004R Advice          El Camino Central Forum Index -> Transmission & Drive line View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Manx Americar Spanner Necoa #: 12231 Location: 25(All Other) Joined: Aug 03, 2008 Posts: 6 Year: 1977 Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: TH2004R Advice Hi to all out there! I'm looking for some advice about the TH2004R trans, As i'm in the Isle of Man (uk) information on this tranny is limited. i've just installed the TH2004R as the TH350 gave up the ghost in my '77 caprice (sorry its not a El Camino) it has a electrical connector on the left side that i take to being the tcc, can i run the car without it connected or what damage will it do if not connected? look forward to hear from all you tech guy's! Back to top boboyen Platinum Supporter Necoa #: 10514 Location: 18(N.CA,N.NV) Joined: Nov 25, 2007 Posts: 51 Year: 1986 Model: El Camino Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Those wires lock & unlock the torque convertor in 3rd & 4th gear. It will suck gas more & create heat (internal slippage in convertor) if you don't get something like this. http://www.jegs.com/p/TCI/748599/10002/-1/10733[/web] They are fairly easy to install & not too expensive. I like the TCI the best, but there's others out there. _________________ Have Fun! Bob 86 El Camino (Wife's "work truck") Gallery 61 Ranchero (Wife's project) 04 Dodge 2dr Hemi SB (My "work truck") 01 Dodge QuadCab 4X4 Diesel (My play truck) 58 Del Ray 2dr Wagon (My project) 68 Imperial Crown Coupe (Just Big) Back to top boboyen Platinum Supporter Necoa #: 10514 Location: 18(N.CA,N.NV) Joined: Nov 25, 2007 Posts: 51 Year: 1986 Model: El Camino Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: I don't know if the link worked .... TCI Part# is 376600 Jegs Part# is 890-376600 Summit Part# is TCI-376600 _________________ Have Fun! Bob 86 El Camino (Wife's "work truck") Gallery 61 Ranchero (Wife's project) 04 Dodge 2dr Hemi SB (My "work truck") 01 Dodge QuadCab 4X4 Diesel (My play truck) 58 Del Ray 2dr Wagon (My project) 68 Imperial Crown Coupe (Just Big) Back to top Manx Americar Spanner Necoa #: 12231 Location: 25(All Other) Joined: Aug 03, 2008 Posts: 6 Year: 1977 Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject: Many thanks for the link, i've now ordered that kit so hopefully it wont take too long to cross the pond!! It looks nice and simple to install I haven't had any slippage yet, but i've only done a few gentle town miles, so hopefully i haven't done any damage I take it its best not to use the car until the tcc kit is installed? Back to top boboyen Platinum Supporter Necoa #: 10514 Location: 18(N.CA,N.NV) Joined: Nov 25, 2007 Posts: 51 Year: 1986 Model: El Camino Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: You should be OK, it's not much different than a pre-lockup convertor slippage, probably not noticeable. _________________ Have Fun! Bob 86 El Camino (Wife's "work truck") Gallery 61 Ranchero (Wife's project) 04 Dodge 2dr Hemi SB (My "work truck") 01 Dodge QuadCab 4X4 Diesel (My play truck) 58 Del Ray 2dr Wagon (My project) 68 Imperial Crown Coupe (Just Big) Back to top Manx Americar Spanner Necoa #: 12231 Location: 25(All Other) Joined: Aug 03, 2008 Posts: 6 Year: 1977 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Ok, I've now installed the torque converter clutch lock-up kit which seems to work fine, the problem i have now is when driving very easy all gear changes are fine, if i drive it slightly harder it doesn't change up without flooring it!! What's wrong??? HELP!!! i was supposed to be going on a road trip in 5 days!! Aaahh!!! Back to top boboyen Platinum Supporter Necoa #: 10514 Location: 18(N.CA,N.NV) Joined: Nov 25, 2007 Posts: 51 Year: 1986 Model: El Camino Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Did you hook up the TV cable? (Throttle Valve- it tells the trans where the load [throttle] is; to control throttle pressure which raises or lowers the shift points) Both your old tranny and the 2004r should have 1. If it's hooked up it may need adjustment. Send me your email & I can send you adjusment instructions. _________________ Have Fun! Bob 86 El Camino (Wife's "work truck") Gallery 61 Ranchero (Wife's project) 04 Dodge 2dr Hemi SB (My "work truck") 01 Dodge QuadCab 4X4 Diesel (My play truck) 58 Del Ray 2dr Wagon (My project) 68 Imperial Crown Coupe (Just Big) Back to top John Harris NECOA National Director Necoa #: 78 Location: 2(CT,MA,ME,NH,RI,VT) Joined: Mar 27, 2003 Posts: 522 Year: 1983 Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Hello Barry. If you go to the "Forums" section of our website (Click on the link in the bar near the top of the home page) you can scroll down to the Transmission and Drive Line discussion area. Lots of prior postings there about your question, which probably involves the throttle valve linkage adjustments. Also try using "Search" feature and start by typing in the type of tranny you have just installed. This will bring up a list of all prior posts on that topic. As we tell all new members: "Search" is your best friend here at ElCaminoCentral!" Hope you find the answer you need. Good Luck! _________________ View my El Camino Last edited by John Harris on Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:49 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top boboyen Platinum Supporter Necoa #: 10514 Location: 18(N.CA,N.NV) Joined: Nov 25, 2007 Posts: 51 Year: 1986 Model: El Camino Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Or you can do that! _________________ Have Fun! Bob 86 El Camino (Wife's "work truck") Gallery 61 Ranchero (Wife's project) 04 Dodge 2dr Hemi SB (My "work truck") 01 Dodge QuadCab 4X4 Diesel (My play truck) 58 Del Ray 2dr Wagon (My project) 68 Imperial Crown Coupe (Just Big) Back to top Manx Americar Spanner Necoa #: 12231 Location: 25(All Other) Joined: Aug 03, 2008 Posts: 6 Year: 1977 Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Hi Guy's The TV cable is connected and set to the correct WOT position by manually moving the throttle linkage, if i extent the adjuster by a click or two it starts to slip between gear changes! i'm not able to get a happy-medium. Here in the Isle of Man it is quite hilly so from time to time a bit of gas is needed, the car kicks down fine to drive up over a hill but once you over the car doesn't wont to change again unless you floor it by which time your up someones bumper!!! I've fitted a trans cooler when i installed the tranny, would that be a problem? could it be a torque converter problem? How fragile are these tranny's? would it stand a 1000 mile road trip if driven carefully? Many thanks for your help!! Back to top old_coot Silver Contributor Necoa #: 3943 Location: 9(IN,KY,MI) Joined: Sep 09, 2004 Posts: 1560 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: I have about 200,000 miles on my Buick Regal T-type with the turbo engine---these tranny's are solid if they are right and can burn up real quick if not...the shifting is a balance of the TV cable varying the line pressure and the routeing of the fluid within the govenor--(on the output shaft)--sounds like you may be having a problem somewhere in the govenor circuit......................Dan _________________ I don't think I have ever had a car that was "FINISHED"........unless it was totaled. Back to top Manx Americar Spanner Necoa #: 12231 Location: 25(All Other) Joined: Aug 03, 2008 Posts: 6 Year: 1977 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Thanks Dan, I Dont think it will make the road trip, I think it time to pull this tranny out as its starting to slip between gear changes! which would be the best to rebuild, my orginal TH350 or this TH2004R? plus as it will be a full rebuild what would be the best kit and what level of performance should i go to? Back to top old_coot Silver Contributor Necoa #: 3943 Location: 9(IN,KY,MI) Joined: Sep 09, 2004 Posts: 1560 Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: I would rebuild the th2004r, I can't imagine anything without overdrive and lock-up converters with the cost of fuel these days...........Dan _________________ I don't think I have ever had a car that was "FINISHED"........unless it was totaled. 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