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5th Gen Full Door Skins?

 
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ElkyDori
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: 5th Gen Full Door Skins? Reply with quote

I've seen people asking about them a while ago on this forum, but I wanted to see if anyone had an update on a supplier that has actually come through with these.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read this thread?

http://elcaminocentral.com/ftopict-2581.html
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to the other thread...

We will most likely see full doors available VS skins for the 5th gens. The reason I say that is because the inside panel usually fails first. It has lots of stress points and it's uncommon to find a door without lots of cracks in it. The worst part is right above the upper hinge.

When you enxounter any cracks in the sheet metal drill a stop hole at the end of the crack to stop it then put a little paint on it.

I'd like a see a door built like the f-bod door.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elcam84 wrote:
. The reason I say that is because the inside panel usually fails first.
I have a few doors laying around and most have worse doorskins than inner shells. Maybe it's got something to do with the area of the country...we use salt on the roads in winter...but then again I have a door (freebee aquired from Acauth1) from down in Texas and the skin is worse on that one also. I have two doors off an Elky that was hit by a freight train...one was mint, the other bent almost in half. I removed the skin and straightened the shell (no stress cracks)...but now I need a skin for it. Goodmark gets on my nerves...I'd liked to slap em silly! I think a big problem with the doors and why they rust out at the bottom is that over time debris that builds up inside the door from having the glass down, clogs the drain holes, and then the moisture sits in the bottom of the door and starts the corrosion process. I think if you free the holes of any debris occasionally with a wire (poke the holes clear) the door would last longer. I'm even going to try drilling larger holes at the bottom of the door, when I finally get around to finishing them.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the debrie issus... Pop all those plastic plugs out of the bottom of the door. That will help immensely. I have no idea why GM plugged up those perfectly good drain holes.


The problem with the stress cracks on the inner panel is mainly caused by the length of the door and the door hinges. The detent roller puts allot of force ont he door and actually twists it. You can easily see this on the car with the weatherstrip off. It bends allot.

I'll try to get some pics of where they crack. Many of the cracks are around the openenings of the inner panel but the worst ones are at the top of the door above the upper hinge and hidden by the weatherstrip. These are major structural cracks that go unseen for years until the door starts twisting allot when moved. I have seen many of them with over 1" cracks 1/4" apart in a row.


This is part of why they went away from the hinge roller especially on the lighter built doors. I'm working on figuring out another way to do a detent or shock on the doors.
I really hate the hinge detents as they aren't in the right place cause the hinge was designed for 4 dr cars with shorter doors so the door is never where you want it. It also tears up the doors like I said.

One other issue is the span of the inner panel lets it flex allot when even putting mild pressure on the inner door handle. A piece of thin gauge angle iron or sheet metal riveted inside the door easily stiffens this up and makes it feel much more solid.
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