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Necoa #: 2314
Location: 20(HI)
Joined: Jan 29, 2004
Posts: 3653
Year: 1979
Model: El Camino
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:19 pm Post subject:
How come he's so fussy about catalytic converters? Besides if he knew what he was doing he would know that two cats work just as good as one. And if it's so important that the engine remain the same as it left the factory than how come he isn't concerned about the appearance of the rest of your engine--it certainly isn't "factory". If a vehicle is subject to emission standards then it should be given a tailpipe sniff and if it conforms to the emmisions of the year it was built then it should pass no matter what it looks like. A poorly maintained engine with all the devices on and working could still be a gross emiter. I'm thankful that I live in an area where we don't have to deal with all that nonsense. _________________ 1979 El Camino\r\n1955 Chevrolet Del Ray\r\n1962 Corvette\r\n1966 Corvette Coupe
Necoa #: 14
Location: 5(NC,SC)
Joined: Dec 07, 2001
Posts: 1761
Year: 1978
Model: El Camino
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject:
I install the factory air creaner & heat riser pipe. I route the hoses for the vapor canister so it all looks factory. I have taken it it several guys here & he is the easiest! I hope this is the last year for all that! I agree with you, It should not matter what it looks like as long as it's clean out the rear. _________________ 78 Camino SS, 355,built 700r4,3.23
Gallery78 Camino SS, 355,700r4,3.23
MSGT 145 AW
NECOA #14
Necoa #: 2314
Location: 20(HI)
Joined: Jan 29, 2004
Posts: 3653
Year: 1979
Model: El Camino
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:51 pm Post subject:
Ahhh...you're being sneaky Tommy! But if I know you like I think I do, that Elky's exhaust is cleaner than when it drove off the assembly line. Exhaust emmision standards shouldn't apply to us guys who love our cars more than we love our kids--it should apply exclusively to those slobs that open the hood only when the engine finally quits because it wasn't tuned in 10 years. Long live the four barrel carb!!!! _________________ 1979 El Camino\r\n1955 Chevrolet Del Ray\r\n1962 Corvette\r\n1966 Corvette Coupe
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Necoa #: 14
Location: 5(NC,SC)
Joined: Dec 07, 2001
Posts: 1761
Year: 1978
Model: El Camino
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:08 am Post subject:
Man, You are so right! Except for the kids part. With the MSD & all it does read better than alot of new cars. _________________ 78 Camino SS, 355,built 700r4,3.23
Gallery78 Camino SS, 355,700r4,3.23
MSGT 145 AW
NECOA #14
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject: crossmember question
I have currently inside my 81 el camino a 400 small block..I have just discovered that the headers that i used..hooker shorty headers...dont really fit..on the passenger side one of the tubes is against the frame..Will the flow tech headers fit without any sort of modifications? A 400 small block shouldnt be bigger than a 350 or am i overlooking something..ANyone with more input please feel free to give me some..I read the other posts but im still kinda leary of getting another set of headers unless i know they are gonna work out..Also .do i have to have a special crossmemeber to have true duals? Or is that something a good muffler shop can work around..
thanks again guys..
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:35 pm Post subject: No I was talking exhaust
You can't use a truck vortec exhaust manifold on a Elkie, the exhaust exits wrong, that is why i had to get shorties _________________ race prepped 350 .040, msd ignition(6-AL, billet distributer, MSD Blaster 2), L-31 vortec's, .488/.488 lift cam, 670 street avenger, air gap intake, roller rocker arms, TH350, 2500 stall, 3.73 gears. Exxon loves me!
A long time ago when I was first planning the 80 Project I went to the inspection stations locally to see what I could get by with and what I couldn't. I ran on the Single exhaust system, single cat issue here also. I argued with the guy, which in retrospect was a dumb thing to do my beef wasn't really with him it was the EPA. I wrote them and posed the same question, what difference it makes, pollution wise, between having two cats and two exhaust pipes over one cat and a single exhaust pipe.
There answer was it doesn't matter... The truck was certified by EPA with one and that is all. Had there been any El Caminos that year, Mine again was a 1980, certified by EPA for GM with dual cats/exhausts then it would be fine. Its not an issue of pollution its only a matter of what was certified as good that year model. The guy at the inspection station has no choices of what to look for. _________________ Home Site: http://www.elcaminoplace.com
1972 El Camino Custom 400
1976 El Camino Classic
1980 El Camino Super Sport
E-Mail: engstrvr@sbcglobal.net
Necoa #: 2314
Location: 20(HI)
Joined: Jan 29, 2004
Posts: 3653
Year: 1979
Model: El Camino
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:12 pm Post subject:
Yes Pete you can't blame him because he was only a small piece of that mindless, senseless bureacracy--he was only "following orders". It irks me to no end that people with brains the size of a retarded mosquito have so much control over such important aspects of our life. I know that this is not a political forum but the "pursuit of happiness" is an essential part of our hobby and we have to protect it from people who don't see our enthusiasm for things mechanical as important to their world view. Strike a blow for Freedom, Liberty and the American Way of Life--kiss off bureacrats at every opportunity! _________________ 1979 El Camino\r\n1955 Chevrolet Del Ray\r\n1962 Corvette\r\n1966 Corvette Coupe
Necoa #: 14
Location: 5(NC,SC)
Joined: Dec 07, 2001
Posts: 1761
Year: 1978
Model: El Camino
Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:39 pm Post subject:
My guy told me that it did not matter how my exhaust was after the cat. That's why I did the y pipe thing. _________________ 78 Camino SS, 355,built 700r4,3.23
Gallery78 Camino SS, 355,700r4,3.23
MSGT 145 AW
NECOA #14
My guy told me that it did not matter how my exhaust was after the cat. That's why I did the y pipe thing.
It doesn't matter. EPA says the same thing. That is not true dual exhaust but I suppose you could look at it as sort of dual. Wouldn't the Cat, Not the GM Type though, be basically the same as an "H" pipe connection? Dual to the cats then dual to the back, out or what ever. With an "H" or an "X" you have basically the same type of deal, dual to the H or X then dual on out.
I don't care for someone that has not a clue telling me that if I did that then its going to be more poultion, that is the Jist of what they are saying anyway, than the original way. I could understand if I wanted to remove them altogether. That releases sulfer in the air and it kills paint jobs in the form of Acid Rain. _________________ Home Site: http://www.elcaminoplace.com
1972 El Camino Custom 400
1976 El Camino Classic
1980 El Camino Super Sport
E-Mail: engstrvr@sbcglobal.net
Necoa #: 14
Location: 5(NC,SC)
Joined: Dec 07, 2001
Posts: 1761
Year: 1978
Model: El Camino
Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:29 pm Post subject:
I agree with you Pete. It seems like two cats are better than one. The main idea is to help keep the air clean right? _________________ 78 Camino SS, 355,built 700r4,3.23
Gallery78 Camino SS, 355,700r4,3.23
MSGT 145 AW
NECOA #14
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With the MSD & all it does read better than alot of new cars.
