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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: 5 gen emissions crap
i live in the great state of West Virginia so i don't have to pass a smog test so i was wondering how hard it would be to get rid of the pollution equipment and any problems i would encounter if i removed them I am NOT A tree huggin hippie so I am not concerned about hurting the eviornment. It looks really bad and I want it out!!!!!!!!!!
i still want the emissions stuff out it is not that big of a deal and did you know that there is no solid proof that there is a hole in the ozone. it is probably just a stunt the green party pulled to get on the news. any help is appreciated.
Necoa #: 499
Location: 19(AK,ID,OR,WA)
Joined: Jan 09, 2003
Posts: 314
Year: 1985
Model: El Camino
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:27 am Post subject:
i dont like pollution controlled vehicles either but cars make up smaller polution numbers than people say they do. look at the recent california forest fire. that put way more haze in the air than a city worth of cars do in a year. with proper brush clearing it wouldn't have been so big. i know that they had a drought there for the last 3years. but the brush had to of been piling up for some time.
dont say you dont care about your environment just cause you have some clutter in the engine bay. _________________ 1985 El Camino Conquista 13.7 @ 99mph with 87octane
I'm not a really big fan of some of the smog stuff they put on cars in the 70s and 80s either but..... For the most part we're stuck with it being on the vehicles. That said you can still get things like headers, intakes and other items that will help add power and better efficiency for the overall system.
Things like removing those restrictive exhaust manifolds and replacing things like the EGR with a new one, tuning, rebuilding or replacing the carburetor, installing better flowing catalytic converter all can and will add better fuel efficiency and more power to the engine.
Remember most of our vehicles are pretty damn old and they were not made to last for ever. So new parts and improvements in technology will add to the overall satisfaction.
A good crate LS1 will remove almost all the smog stuff you dislike now but it has its own smog controls on it and it, if I am not mistaken, is legal in all 50 states. So you do have options some cost more than others.
I want my grandchildren to be able to walk around and enjoy the air when they are my age so anything I can do to help with that now I try to do. I am not by any means a shinning example of the Green Party, or even a member, but I do like trees and grass and fishing in clean lakes and swimming /camping around them. I am a "country boy" not to be mistaken for a "Red Neck" just a country boy.
Good luck with your ride.
Oh........ And I was a "Hippy" and I don't remember ever hugging a tree in my life and none of the people I hung around with did that I know of. Some did a little hugging of a toilet every so often when they had too much to drink. _________________ Home Site: http://www.elcaminoplace.com
1972 El Camino Custom 400
1976 El Camino Classic
1980 El Camino Super Sport
E-Mail: engstrvr@sbcglobal.net
Necoa #: 1631
Location: Camp Hill, PA
Joined: Oct 13, 2003
Posts: 106
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 8:30 am Post subject: I'll take your Smog crap
Up here in Central PA our county is now getting mandated emissions testing starting in December. This has been bantered about by the politicos for years and nothing ever happened. All of a sudden.....here it is.
My 82 Elky, which I purchased in September has most of the smog stuff removed and at the time it was not that important to me that it was missing. The car runs great.
I will need to find and put back the A.I.R. pump and other assorted sensors and hoses. I have yet to figure out all that needs to be put back.
To add insult to injury, the law as I am told for my car, which will fall under the category of driven less than 5000 miles a year, only needs a "visual inspection" and a gas cap pressure test. It does not matter if the smog stuff works, it JUST HAS TO BE THERE. The AIR pump could be an empty case but hooked up to the belt system.
So, if anyone has an empty AIR pump they want to part with let me know.
JIM _________________ 1982 El Camino Conquista
1965 Corvair Monza Ct.
1963 Corvair Spyder
1955 Ford Crown Vic
1983 Honda Goldwing Aspencade
Some days you're the Dog, Some days you're the Hydrant!
I am currently pulling all the smog crap off my car too(also a unconcerned 16 year old whippersnapper!) I am doing exhaust first- putting on headers and dual side exhaust. What I would recommend is that if you are going to take off the pump and eveything get an MSD or similar device that provide a more powerful spark. It burns more gasses in the combustion chamber, creating less crap in your exhaust. For example my autotech teacher has a Turbocharged maxima wagon with MSD with no cats and can pass any emissions test you put it through. If you have to get a test by law- you're screwed( you dont have any air pumps etc.). But to be a bit friendlier to the enviro- and to make you car run better, at least get the MSD.
Good Luck- Its hard when your a youngin', everyone takes you so seriously!
im just glad i dont live in a smog state, and my elky is old enough that no emission laws apply anyway. sweet freedom! _________________ 65 El camino owner
If speed kills, drive a Ford and live forever
Necoa #: 14
Location: 5(NC,SC)
Joined: Dec 07, 2001
Posts: 1761
Year: 1978
Model: El Camino
Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2003 4:11 pm Post subject:
I think that as long as a car passes the tailpipe emissions test it should not matter whats under the hood. My 78 did not have much on it but all that works is a egr & aftermarket cat. It is clean out the back because I feel we should do what we can for the air we breathe. _________________ 78 Camino SS, 355,built 700r4,3.23
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