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Necoa #: 1689
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Joined: Oct 24, 2003
Posts: 94
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:18 am Post subject: Does America Need a New El Camino?
Most people would probably answer yes, to this question. But I'm not so sure we need another elky. As much as I would love to have one the problem is that there is not currently a front engine-rwd car that chevy makes. If we brought the UTe (whatever that means) it will probably look more euro or australian (same differece) then american. My opinion comes down to this Chevy has enough trucks to choose from, they need ot make cars with the same performance as the trucks first. If they did come out with an new elky, it will be in limited quantity and that will jack up the price, and me being 19 and in college I will not be able to afford it. I think it would be better to bring back the chevelle, the nova, or camaro first and when chevy sees that they can sell these cars then the elky could come out cheap.
Well those are just my thoughts...the few that I have. _________________ do you bleed blue bowties?
Necoa #: 14
Location: 5(NC,SC)
Joined: Dec 07, 2001
Posts: 1761
Year: 1978
Model: El Camino
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:25 pm Post subject:
I think if they do, it should not be called El Camino. I mean look at what they did to the name Nova? _________________ 78 Camino SS, 355,built 700r4,3.23
Gallery78 Camino SS, 355,700r4,3.23
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NECOA #14
Necoa #: 1419
Location: 17(S.CA,S.NV)
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
Posts: 488
Year: 1970
Model: El Camino
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject:
Time to vent again…
Yes we need a new El Camino, yes we need a new Camaro/Firebird. Do I think it will happen, and at an affordable price…No!
What we need is GM and its marketing staff to pull there head out of their rear end!
GM wanted to kill the Camaro! Look at their marketing over the years on this great car. When still in production did you ever see one Camaro TV ad? All you ever see is trucks, trucks and more truck ads. Ford has done a great job over the years with the Mustang ads, keeping it fresh in the minds of America.
Yes I know Pontiac is coming out with the overseas “de-tuned” LS-1 RWD boring egg shape looking car. Don’t tease me with a cool motor sitting on your parts shelf and put it into a car that is less performance effective as something you all ready had! (Camaro SS)
I really think Chevrolet wanted to get out of the affordable rear wheel drive muscle car era. They will keep the Corvette as its only sports car icon. A car a 21 year old kid can afford…no.
What you will see first is a new hot Cavalier to compete with the front wheel drive imports craze. GM again very late in jumping into the fwd performance market.
Chevrolet….sorry to say the ‘HEART BEAT OF AMERICA” has flat-lined!
GM…go to the video store and put down “Fast and Furious” and pick up “Two lane black top” you might learn or remember something.
Again, just my two cents.
Now where are my f#@king keys to my El Camino….I need to burn some rubber!
I think if they do, it should not be called El Camino. I mean look at what they did to the name Nova?
Don't forget what they did with the Malibu,Impala,and the worst violation,the Le Mans names
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GM wanted to kill the Camaro! Look at their marketing over the years on this great car. When still in production did you ever see one Camaro TV ad?
Actually I remember one from way back in'93 or '94 when the 4th gens. first came out. It was of 2 kids in thier bedroom listening to cars go by and one kid could name the car by the engine. When they heard the new Z,they were all mystified by it. I've seen 2 commercials in the past for the T/A as well. However nothing near the amount of commercials you see for the Tahoe,Vibes,ect.
It's not just that they didn't really advertise,they didn't build and dealers didn't stock a whole lot either. I remember when I was a kid(late 70's early 80's),the local Pontiac dealer had a whole freaking fleet of T/A's. In the 90's,you'd be lucky to find one or two Camaro's or T/A's on a dealers lot.
It does'nt matter what name plate GM decides to reinvent, 95% of the time they are going to insult the cars of the past that wore those badges. I have a 65 GTO, and i'm not at all impressed with the new version. It just does'nt deserve the GTO name plate. Between the outrages cost of the new cars and all of the unneeded techno crap thats crammed in, I don't see how they can sell enough to bother building them. What ever happened to manual 2 by 55+ airconditioning a decent radio, and enough power to knock the doors off of any ford in town. That's just my opinon I could be wrong _________________ 65 El camino owner
If speed kills, drive a Ford and live forever
Necoa #: 572
Location: 10(IL,MN,WI)
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
Posts: 3629
Year: 1984
Model: El Camino
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:39 pm Post subject:
I'd really like to comment on this, but if I did, I'd probably PO GM, and they'd probably confiscate all my toys in the driveway except the Dodge Daytona...not an original one mind you, that was named after the race, but a front wheel drive piece of $#!+...or the Aries K car (da beater) that I swear must have been designed by someone from the former Soviet Republic. Come to think of it, Chrysler Corporation can have those two back, if they wanna come and get them! Please...come and get them! _________________ "The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
Necoa #: 1689
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Joined: Oct 24, 2003
Posts: 94
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:09 pm Post subject:
I was looking through a previos carcraft and they said that it was rumored that chevy has been thinking about getting rid of the current Monte Carlo and replacing it with a rwd (maybe a V8 I cant remember) that would be cool to have, but it will probably be as expensive as the new GtO coming out. what I don't get is that chevy says there is no longer a market for muscle cars because no one buys them. But when I think about it, chevy isnt offering any muscle cars to buy. I was very surprised to hear that gm was cutting the camaro/firebird because here in the st.Louis area alone you can't drive without seeing a different 4th gen pony car. _________________ do you bleed blue bowties?
Necoa #: 572
Location: 10(IL,MN,WI)
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
Posts: 3629
Year: 1984
Model: El Camino
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject:
Well if they would make real muscle cars at an affordable price, GM would probably sell quite a few! I think what GM Execs have in mind is (just like Ford with the T-bird) let us moan and groan for a few years...then bring back the Camaro SS/Z-28 and the Trans Am and jack the price way up! Unfortunately US car manufactures don't produce cars destined to become classics anymore (with maybe the exception of the Vette)...they want us to keep coming back every few years to buy another disposible product so they can profit from our stupidity. Is that Monaro really in the tradition of the GTO? Nope! Would the UTE be in the tradition of the El Camino...I think not! Maybe Dodge was hitting on something with the Viper, but who can afford $60K...not me! They blew it on, oh what is the name of that thing that looks like an old English Thames Panel truck, but is really just a grocery getter for mom? They should have made that one rear wheel drive and available with their new Dodge hemi. HEMI?...thats a joke! Wha? do I have "SUCKER" written on my forehead when I walk into a new car dealership? The US car industry sucks...and oh yeah, GM...your now in first place at the top of the list! Tied with Chrysler and Ford! I'll build and modify my own cars until the Government tells me I can't...oh wait...they are! Whose paying for my car anyway? Sorry, I'm venting. _________________ "The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
Necoa #: 572
Location: 10(IL,MN,WI)
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
Posts: 3629
Year: 1984
Model: El Camino
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:09 pm Post subject:
PS...I wished they'd make it legal to drive Winston Cup cars on the street...then I really would be safe...and fast! _________________ "The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
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Necoa #: 364
Location: 9(IN,KY,MI)
Joined: Jan 09, 2003
Posts: 1274
Year: 1978
Model: El Camino
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:18 pm Post subject:
Q: Does America Need a New El Camino?
A: YES! (IMO anyway )
But, not in the form of the UTE. The other Holden product, Maloo, get my vote!
And whos to say it wouldn't be in the tradition of the El Camino, if they never stopped producing them, it just might look like the UTE/Maloo anyway. _________________ 1978 El Camino Conquista/SS, F-41 suspension, 350/T5/3:73
(More pics on pg 6 of 5th gen members rides)
Necoa #: 572
Location: 10(IL,MN,WI)
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
Posts: 3629
Year: 1984
Model: El Camino
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:38 pm Post subject:
CHVYPWR wrote:
The other Holden product.
Fact is Chevy did stop making the El Camino. What ever happened to good ole American iron and ingenuity? Oh yeah we exported it...along with all those jobs...and now we can pay to import it back! Brillant! I look forward to the day when I can proudly own one of those new overseas foreign imports...an El Camino! What's next...Korean Corvettes? _________________ "The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
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Necoa #: 1689
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Joined: Oct 24, 2003
Posts: 94
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:44 pm Post subject:
That Maloo or UTE does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and the 1/4 in like 13.5 seconds. thats pretty good. Man I wish my 86 could do that! It would be cool to have any of those performance cars that australia has. It seems down there people buy rwd rather then fwd cars. But I still think that american manufactures should build their own muscle rather then borrowing ideas from australia. _________________ do you bleed blue bowties?
Necoa #: 572
Location: 10(IL,MN,WI)
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
Posts: 3629
Year: 1984
Model: El Camino
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:53 pm Post subject:
Hmmmm...maybe they just borrowed our ideas...just thirty years later! That's it, I'm moving to Austrailia and changing my name to Madd Mike! And, oh yeah, you guys that own those late 60's early 70's Big Block Elkys (70ELCO)...I bet your sitting there and LYAO (laughing your a$$'s off), you know what I'm talking about! Most of you younger guys have never experienced driving an El Camino or Chevelle with an LS6 4spd...not to belittle anyone, but until you do or if you ever do, you have no idea what your missing. And if you ever do get the chance...it becomes an addiction! _________________ "The day we lose our will to fight is the day we lose our freedom" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
What GM needs is more fat, smelly, ugly mechanics to get into their offices and make cars that are like them: big, mean, and don't give a rats rear end about others. We go all these panzi rear end suits that went to 6 years of college to make them certified dumbasses in the engineer department and their diploma makes them the ones who design these cars. For ever family sedan and economy car on the market there should be a RWD, pushrod V8 option. More people would buy performance cars if more were made, you can't make TWO cars and expect TWO HUNDRED million people to all like it, it just won't work. As for now i refuse to buy any car on the market, unless it's a truck or the car comes with a machine to give me blowjobs. All car makers can screw off til they get their Potty Mouth together. _________________ Why don't four cylinders ever want to race a truck?
TheCaminoKidd, don't hold back now, but please hold some of that language within. I believe this forum has a more respect for each other to NOT get to carried away with the verbiage, or at least bleep it out. _________________ 74 El Camino 454/400turbo work in progress!
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