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R12 or R134a..which do I have???

 
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JimIsbell
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: R12 or R134a..which do I have??? Reply with quote

When did they change to R134a from R12?

Is there a way to tell what is in my system?

I have an 1983 EC with 6 cyl. The engine was replaced by the PO and The compressor looks new as well. So I may have R-134a but I dont know how to tell.

Before I begin filling it I should get the answer.

The system has two different sized Schrader valves and NO sight glass so I am thinking it may be R-134a Would the model of the compressor tell??
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R12 have screw on valve fittings. R-134a have fittings simular to a quick
disconnect for an air hose. The small valve is the low pressure line and
larger one is the high pressure line. Normally the low valve should have
a blue cap and the high a red one. You still could have R-134a and not
have the proper valve conversions if someone did not leave them on, this
is not likley. When you sort this out, put on a sticker on the fan housing
stating what you have, for future service. I had my system converted to
R-134a and am using the original compressor. Doug
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

finally I got ahold of the daughter of the previous owner (who is dead) and she tells me it has R-134a in it.

Well that means I have to do a complete evacuation and start over, because When I got the truck I thought it had R-12 in it and tried topping it off with R-12. So now its got some of each in it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: BE CAREFUL Reply with quote

Any mixture of the two results in extremely high pressures. DO NOT connect a gauge set because it will probably damage them. If you take it to a shop be sure and tell them it is contaminated. Very serious business. I did shop equipment repair AC Recovery units, tire balancers, aligners and etc. for many years and this was one of the most dreaded things. I have seen high pressure gauges completely bent around several times.
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