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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:58 am    Post subject: Shorty Headers Reply with quote

Does anyone make shorty headers for a 5th gen? The universal block hugger style go right into the crossmember. The cheeper the better.

I also have a set of used (read: slightly banged up) Hooker Super Comps for sale. These things cost me $700 new. I need the ground clearance.

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might look at Hooker. http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/ES/ESHHSCH/Emission.html on this page these are smog legal so I'm pretty sure they are shorties. In the notes it also says that they will accomodate a vehicle lowered up to 4". Look under GM on the page.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's one of the main reasons I still have stock manufolds. I think I will someday go the shorty route.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynomax has a set that are for the single exhaust. i think you need a y pipe.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want a set that does not have the air tubes. Precomputer emmissions. In fact I might modify the crossmember & go will true duals & cats.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flowtech does
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommy wrote:
I want a set that does not have the air tubes. Precomputer emmissions. In fact I might modify the crossmember & go will true duals & cats.


me and my dad took some 1/4" steel plates and made a c notch in the crossmember. it seems to be stronger.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flowtech does have the shortys the last time i got a price they were $180
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For you guys that used headers into the ypipe & single cat. How much of a difference did it make? Was it worth it?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of DynoMax on my 76 that will work fine on the 5th gens and they are not made for single exhause but I guess if you wanted a single exhaust then you could do that too. Mine are Cerma Coated (Jet Hot Coating) silver in color. They have never discolored. Real nice I might add.

I actually got them for my 80 then decided I wanted them on my 76 insted. I'm using DynoMax Full length headers on the 80.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: shorty headers Reply with quote

i used a set of flow tech headers from summit, made for 78-88 g-body cars price 89.95 drivers side slid right up from the bottom passenger side from the top part # in the summit catalog is "big-11102, easiest set of headers i ever installed
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:38 am    Post subject: shorty headers Reply with quote

There are several different companies that make em. I had to use them becuase i put L-31 vortec heads on my 350...and there is NO SUCH THING as a stock manifold to fit vortecs in a passenger car.....learned that on a saturday after parts store was closed...killed the engine install for 2 days.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info guys, I'll make a note of it for when I have the cash to pick up a set.

As for the guys who were asking about dual exhaust crossmembers, I purchased mine from www.crossmembers.com and have been super satisfied with it, as I was able to get one to fit a 700-R4. At the time I switched to the 700-R4 I worked in the service dept at a chevy dealership and the head service manager came by to check out my el while it was up on a lift, and he was very impressed by the crossmember. I guess he purchased one for his big block 5th gen and has had no problems what so ever.

workNprogress - Are you talking intake manifolds? Cause we're talking exhaust in this thread. But to try and help you out you're correct that the intake manifold bolt pattern is unique on Vortec heads as opposed to other SBC heads. When you want to run a carb with Vortec heads you can either (A) attempt to modifying your existing Pre-86 carb manifold to use the Vortec bolt pattern. It can be done, but you had better know what you are doing. OR (B) buy an an aftermarket intake manifold. There's now a number of them offered by various companies, the widest variety by Edelbrock. I run Vortec heads myself, but when I switched over the only carb intake for vortec heads was made by GM Performance Parts for use on the Fast Burn crate motor. Thank goodness I worked at a dealership, because otherwise that's one expensive intake. Hope I could help.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That crossmember looks real nice with a real nice price, but I guess you gotta pay if you want to play.
Vortec intake manifolds are easy to get now and priced about the same as the early small block intakes.
And Tommy you got a beautiful Elky but it's crying out for a set of ceramic coated exhaust manifolds. Don't bother with the y-pipe and a single cat--go for true duals and add cats if you have to for emmision standards. I wouldn't be surprised if headers with dual exhaust gives you another 35hp and a difference you could really feel.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to look closer that our emmisions standards here. The guy that inspects my cars said that sense my Elky came with one cat then it can have only one. That's the only reason I still have stock manifolds. After this year to is surposed to be emmisions exempt. If that's the case then I will do shorty headers & true duals. I know the manifolds & y-pipe are really hurting out put on this performance 350. I always run headers on my earlier Chevelles cause I didn't have to worry about emmisions. I am looking forward to true duals. Cool
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